The original interview was conducted at the Remodeling Show & Deck Expo.
John Bailey from ClipStone
John Bailey with James and Morris at the Remodeling Show & Deck Expo.

John Bailey – Director of Marketing & Sales, Clip Stone, more information can be found at

Morris: [00:00:00] And we are back and I’m looking at a book that’s entitled Clip Stone and then underneath the title it says mortarless stone veneer by Environmental Stone Works. And with us is John Bailey who’s the director of their marketing and sales. And I think this Clip Stone product is just amazing. I mean you don’t use any mortar.

John: [00:00:25] Correct.

Morris: [00:00:26] I mean this can go inside or outside.

Morris: [00:00:29] And anybody can do it.

John: [00:00:31] Correct.

Morris: [00:00:31] You have to. You have to have a screw gun and a screwdriver.

John: [00:00:34] And a level exactly.

Morris: [00:00:35] And a level. So you start out leveling the bottom. And once you have a level bottom you just lay the stone on top of the bottom and just start screwing it in.

John: [00:00:46] That’s correct.

Morris: [00:00:47] And then every once in a while you have to make a cut at the end.

John: [00:00:50] Correct.

James: [00:00:51] Why don’t I just put traditional stone up?

John: [00:00:53] Well this enables you to you know you’re right.

Morris: [00:00:56] Because most people aren’t Masons silly.

John: [00:00:59] That’s true. You know for most people you having to put lath and mortar and you’re mixing it and there’s a lot of issues with that. This is basically you get the same look it’s a cultured stone, mortarless stone that you’re mechanically fascinating and you can do it yourself.

Morris: [00:01:14] So here’s the deal. I put a sheet of plywood or OSB.

John: [00:01:18] Correct.

Morris: [00:01:19] Onto my wall say in my office. And I put plywood end and floor to ceiling.

John: [00:01:25] Yes.

Morris: [00:01:26] Now the plywood has to be a half inch or thicker?

John: [00:01:29] Yes.

Morris: [00:01:30] I would personally use probably three quarter inch because I’m a nut for structure. And then of course the baseboard has already been removed and you just take this stone and there are supports. At the bottom and top.

John: [00:01:47] Correct.

Morris: [00:01:47] So for the first row you take the bottom supports off.

John: [00:01:50] Right or they just actually kind of fold ’em back like that and they fit in a starter strip.

Morris: [00:01:54] Like that?

John: [00:01:55] Yep they lock into a starter strip down.

Morris: [00:01:57] So there’s a starter strip to begin? Oh that’s great. So the bottom can’t kick out.

John: [00:02:01] Correct. So the bottom line you fold them up like that and they fit into the groove of the starter.

Morris: [00:02:06] That’s so easy.

John: [00:02:08] And then you get it. Like you said you get it level and then-.

Morris: [00:02:11] This thing weighs what about five pounds.

John: [00:02:14] The Stones vary in length so that but the stone itself weighs 12 pounds per square.

Morris: [00:02:19] This isn’t 12 pounds.

John: [00:02:20] No no because 12 pounds per square foot. So depending on the length of the stones you have is.

Morris: [00:02:26] And each stone is held by two screws. Now you provide screws?

John: [00:02:30] We do not we let them.

Morris: [00:02:32] So you’d recommend the screw correct way at one is going to be a cap head at least one inch.

John: [00:02:37] Pan-head and one inch screws.

Morris: [00:02:39] oh excuse me a panhead. Yeah. So a panhead and a Phillips because it’s easier to drive with electric driver.

John: [00:02:44] Correct.

James: [00:02:46] Is there a jig for placement or you just hold it up and you just drive the screws right in the-

John: [00:02:51] You just drive the screws in the key is keep in. I used you know a little torpedo level to make sure the Stones level. You know it doesn’t matter if the brackets are off as long as the stone is left and then you when once you get your first row level since they’re all four inches in height. But they vary in length you have four different length. Just like you said you’re just loading the man with the legs down below and then pass them on the long work your way up and what you’re trying to do is make sure you stagger the joints and you’re staggering the colours of the random colors.

Morris: [00:03:18] People. I’ve got to tell you something I tap on the stone. That is really. Feels like stone. It’s concrete isn’t it.

James: [00:03:28] More importantly it looks like stone.

John: [00:03:29] Yeah.

Morris: [00:03:30] It’s amazing it looks exactly and.

James: [00:03:32] It’s stacks stone and this is sorts of profiles. How many profiles have you got?

John: [00:03:37] We make we actually make two profiles we make a lead stone in a pro stack and the prostack has a lot of shadowing looks like individual pieces.

James: [00:03:44] Gorgeous.

John: [00:03:45] Leadstone is traditional Yeah. And then you have when is it least. It looks like eight or nine different colours that it’s available.

James: [00:03:53] More than that. My gosh yeah.

Morris: [00:03:55] Oh when you can mix colours too.

John: [00:03:57] You can mix colours and styles so if you look at the front of the brochure this builder actually used prostack but then he mixed in a few lead stones to break it up.

James: [00:04:05] I’ll be darn.

Morris: [00:04:06] I’m telling you this is beautiful stuff. You walk into someone’s house and you tap and you think it’s a real honest to goodness mortared in stone.

James: [00:04:17] What’s interesting you’re using a driver drill, a cordless driver drill and some screws, and that’s about it and for cuts you know you’ve got to use a cut off saw with a carborundum blade or something like it.

Morris: [00:04:28] Or a grinder.

John: [00:04:28] Or a hand grinder with a four and half inch. It works fine.

James: [00:04:31] And it sounds to me like you’re appealing to builders and remodelers and specifiers to utilise this in lieu of the traditional means but also to home owners who have an interest in getting their hands dirty and doing something on the inside or outside of their home where they don’t need to have the expertise.

John: [00:04:46] Correct.

James: [00:04:47] All right.

Morris: [00:04:47] You know this is something that I mean you’d have a hard time screw this up.

James: [00:04:52] John Bailey. He is with Clip Stone. How may folks get more information on your product?

John: [00:04:57] Now if you wants more information. It’s great. Go to the Web site which is

James: [00:05:03] And the per square foot cost approximately?

John: [00:05:07] 11 to 12 dollars per square foot at retail.

Morris: [00:05:09] I was going to say 25.

James: [00:05:11] Thanks for joining us. The Remodeling Show Deck Expo.

John: [00:05:14] Thank you guys.

James: [00:05:16] You can get more information by visiting our web site at

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